# mnot’s blog: RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users

<https://www.mnot.net/blog/2020/08/28/for_the_users>

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## What Jamie wrote

The [IETF](https://www.ietf.org) is a very unique group, and this article is both illuminating of this RFC, but also of the way the group operates in general.

> So at its heart, The Internet is for End Users is a call for IETF participants to stop pretending that they can ignore the non-technical consequences of their decisions, a call for broader consultation when making them, and one for continued focus on the end user. Ultimately, end user impact is as least as important as the technical considerations of a proposal, and judging that impact requires a more serious effort to understand and incorporate other non-technical views.

This seems like something that should be implicit to these discussions.

## Facts

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## Appears in

- [WT155: Weekly Thing #155 / Menu Engineers, Halo, RFC8890](https://weekly.thingelstad.com/archive/155/), Recommended Links

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