# Everyone Thinks They’re Managing by Outcomes. Here’s How to Actually Do it. | Product Talk

<https://www.producttalk.org/2019/10/managing-outcomes/>

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## What Jamie wrote

There is a lot to chew on here.

> When teams only communicate their conclusions—the features they’ll implement, the projects they’ll execute, and the initiatives they’ll deliver—managers focus their feedback on those conclusions.
> 
> This keeps us solidly in the world of micromanaging outputs.

I love this delineation of outputs and outcomes. The structures shared in this writeup to illustrate the product and opportunity space a product team is working on seem very interesting.

## Facts

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## Appears in

- [WT121: Weekly Thing #121 / Oct 12, 2019](https://weekly.thingelstad.com/archive/121/), Notable Links 📌

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