# It’s too late for Dave Winer and John Battelle to save the common web

<http://scobleizer.com/2012/02/04/its-too-late-for-dave-winer-and-john-battelle-to-save-the-common-web/>

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## From the page (probably an excerpt, not Jamie's words)

paraphrased: "Four years ago, I told you all that Google and Facebook were evil. You did nothing, which is why I must now use Google and Facebook." His list of reasons that Facebook beats the Open Web gives new shallows to the phrase "vanity metrics". Yes, the open web does not go out of its way to

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